• deft@ttrpg.network
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    and I’m saying you sound so clueless treating this like some weird war between factions. It is an extremely uninformed position and view.

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      It’s… historical truth, dude. The interim goal of the USSR was to overthrow capitalism in Germany, and then from there, enact world communist revolution under their aegis via COMECON

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        1 year ago

        But the CIA, who has way more funding, didn’t constantly overthrow any form of socialism they smelled? Okay.

        Do you support unions or workers rights by chance?

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          Oh, sure, they did.

          Do you support unions or workers rights by chance?

          Absolutely. Which is one big reason why I oppose communism. One of the first things the bolshevists did when they seized power is took the right to appoint officials to labor unions and worker’s Soviets, and turned those representative organizations into agents of the Party rather than representatives of the workers.

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            Which is fine. But you can’t deny the entire history of worker’s rights is haunted by capitalists trying to prevent or entirely suppress it. Socialism has followed the same path. Any time it is implemented from basic worker rights, which is a left socialist goal, it is intentionally poisoned by those in power.

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              Of course it is. That’s why the role of governments in a capitalist society includes protecting workers rights, including union rights. That’s best done via democratic representation in a liberal democracy. But the presence of workers rights or union rights doesn’t end capitalism.