• Krauerking@lemy.lolOP
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      6 days ago

      Ew, your hatred of people and desire for others to be suffering or non-existent is showing and it’s gross.

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        22 hours ago

        Your ignorance of the realities of famines and resource management shows, and it’s fucking pathetic. I am poor, I don’t hate poor people, I am explaining the problem is that religious people refuse to have sensible limits on procreation when there are government handouts. For example, in China, they have sensible procreation policies at times. I don’t support their lack of freedom of speech, but nature and math are realities that can’t be ignored. Clearly, you prefer platitudes and would rather ignore science.

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          I dont care for what lies you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about them.

          Plans that involve the suffering of others should never come first. And your choice to pretend you have gone through all others plans is not reality.

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          21 hours ago

          The idea “poor” people shouldn’t be allowed to breed is basically equivalent in my eyes to Nazi eugenics. A human being’s true worth should never be measured by the size of their bank account, or by their social class. The only reason poverty exist in the first place is because of evil, greedy fucks like Jeff Bezos. If anything, the rich shouldn’t be allowed to breed. That would do a lot more to address poverty than anything else.

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        6 days ago

        according to OP we should apparently murder the homeless because nobody below a certain income level should be allowed to live or have kids. i’ve seen this argument before… mostly from people who had wealthy parents and feel like nobody should have kids unless their parents have millions in the bank to pave an easy life path for their children… just like theirs did.

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        22 hours ago

        That’s not what I said at all. What I was saying is that if you give free housing and free snap to people, society will have to take care of those children, and there’s a risk of a lot of people who aren’t willing to or aren’t able to work. Possibly with AI and UBI in the future, this won’t matter, but for now, it does. I am also not a wealthy person. I am poor as fuck, have considered suicide because of poverty, and do work hard but have had a lot of tragedy in my life. I am explaining the problem of unregulated free food and housing eventually leads to resource problems. You don’t know me, or what I’ve been though in life, and fuck you.

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          20 hours ago

          Fair enough, but I still wish I could give you UBI, free healthcare (including mental health and for gucks sake dental), and an opportunity at free college

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        6 days ago

        yes. it’s a popular view among the wealthy in particular.

        i’ve met many people who have told me i should never have been born because my parents weren’t rich and I had to pay for my college education with loans and scholarships. they argued that people like me are a ‘drain’ and that i ‘stole’ my position uni from a more deserving rich person. they don’t believe in class mobility, just class punishment.

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          6 days ago

          When I was younger i took credit for intelligence and hard work getting a full scholarship to a good school. That’s part of it, but l realize I started in a good place

          As I get older I believe everyone who wants to should have a free college education because we desperately need a more knowledgeable and capable society. And it better be ready by the time I’m ready to sit back

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            5 days ago

            in my experience of higher ed, most people in it don’t want to be there. especially the students. they are only there by force of threat of being unemployable.

            what educated intelligent hard working people don’t understand is most people aren’t like them. most people want to be dumb and lazy and find learning painful and miserable.

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              Sure, no one should be forced at that point. But if they want to, everyone should have the opportunity free. And you’re right there would need to be some sort of safeguard against idiots wasting our money.

              But we all benefit from from a better educated population. It’s a crime that free public education has remained at high school level when civilization has gotten much more complex.

              And part of this should be that college is not “job training”. Yes our society benefits from people learning how to think or better understand many things which are not directly connected to profitability