The billionaire wants to advance his political program while preserving his power and wealth

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    8 months ago

    If you didn’t think this was the point of him buying twitter…

    It was never about the money, its about growing and empowering a movement that the global oligarchy think they can control.

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      It was never a clever ploy. He’s an idiot that said something he shouldn’t have it may ruin far more than Twitter before all is said and done.

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        I didn’t say it was clever, just that it was obvious. This was an opportunity for a foreign government (Saudis) to buy media/ narrative control over US media. A rightwing/ fascist government is easier for them to work on, so they do things that support its creation.

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      Which is exactly the same plan as last time. Then, the ultra-rich were afraid of communism so they propped up nationalism. Now though, they are after democracy as such.

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        What’s the downside for them? They either win big or things stay roughly the same and they might pay some extra tax but not much. No one (of them) is losing their bulk of their wealth or their freedom. Might as well roll the dice.

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          7 months ago

          Ask the Russian oligarchs how they feel about Purin causing massive sanctions against Russia.

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            There won’t be any massive sanctions if ~85% of the world’s governments on your side. That’s why they’re propping up it in every country.

            However, they’ll inadvertently also reignite territorial disputes between countries. The Russo-Ukrainian war is also based on the fact, that in the past, borders were different, and some countries were “greater” at that time.

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            Or about throwing half of them in jail (or through the window) because they said something he didn’t like or because he wanted their stuff.

            Everyone thinks the leopard only eats other people’s faces.

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          Ask the Russian oligarchs how they feel about Purin causing massive sanctions against Russia.

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          Yeah, if I ever disagree I get called a MAGA, so literally the left has become what they used to hate.

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            Dude, you support Trump. You’re a maga.

            People criticizing you does not violate your free speech. Getting banned from a website does not violate your free speech. Nobody is arresting you.

            What right wingers mean by free speech is they want the law to protect people using racial slurs and discrimination above the rights of the people they hate to live equitably within society.

            They want to go back to the 1950s, exactly the way they keep saying.

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        We already had it. Musk took it away.

        What right were you looking for? The right to call certain people certain words?

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    8 months ago

    this is what the .1% want - a full Corporatocracy where they, not elected leaders of governments, control countries and people.

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    8 months ago

    Elon Musk has trouble elevating his own rocket. He sure as hell isn’t elevating anything in terms of political discourse…

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      I can’t stand Musk, but SpaceX is going really well, so I’m not sure what that’s supposed to mean… If you’re referring to Starship, they didn’t expect it to work 100% on the first few tries (unlike some media, who report on it as if they failed).

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        This may be an unpopular opinion but corporate space flight is stupid at this point in humanity’s history.

        Any efficiencies that can be pointed to come from skirting regulations in ways NASA can’t or from stock assumptions that might lead to foreign sales and or monopoly, which should be a consideration no matter whose doing it… if it’s illegal for NASA to sell space IP to another company, than it should be for any company.

        People say government doesn’t work, but we have never had a chance to see it work with Republicans throwing albatrosses across it’s neck and cutting at its heals and slashing their hamstrings at any chance they get.

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          I totally agree, but funneling taxpayer money to space exploration makes rich people richer faster than, say, using that money to build homes or feed the hungry.

          This means useful idiots are always going to support it over any alternatives.

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          Stupid at this point in humanity’s history? Why should it be stupid to make it cheaper to fly payloads into space when we have unprecedented demand for renewable energy? Without interference of the atmosphere we could harvest solar energy much more efficiently and reliably.

          We are likely to see a space elevator build in 100 years and it will be a good thing for humanity. For example we’ll be able to remove nuclear waste from earth and send it away for good with negligible costs.

          These are just two economic examples. From a scientific perspective cheap space flight is valuable because it enables a lot of advances, like the next generation of space telescopes, working as interferometers without atmospheric disturbances.

          So I think it’s everything but stupid for humanity to expand it’s space operations if this is accompanied by meaningful regulations. The latter of course will require a lot of energy to achieve.

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            No one is saying to stop space activity. All of that could be done through government agency if we really wanted to. Inefficiency doesn’t come from some nebulous bureaucracy, it comes from actually observing regulations and taking safety and environmental considerations into account.

            If space is that important for humanity, than you may as well suspend the regulations. All a corporation is doing is skirting those regulations and acting as a middle man to collect some money for doing so. Adding profit does not make an organization more efficient, as it means money is going to things that don’t support space.

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            It should never be falling on for profit companies. That’s how you end up with super corporations being in charge instead of governments and that is a disaster waiting to happen. All that was needed was to actually start seriously funding programs like NASA again.

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      Really? Didn’t he impregnate Grimes twice?

      In addition to having kids with like 3 other women?

      Say what you want about Musk, but there’s no denying he’s having a way easier time getting laid and spreading his genes than most of you.

      There’s just something about money that even makes slimeballs like Musk irresistible to the opposite sex.

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    If he were helping the extreme left, I assure you, that would be ok for the most people here…