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I love how corpos can just change the rules at will.
Edit: New prices:
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing/models-and-pricing
And if you look at the old pricing structure, some of the models are increasing by 27x
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Man, they couldn’t have communicated this more confusingly, if they tried.
And nothing of value was lost.
I mean, if AI gets too expensive, companies can always hire juniors to replace them 🤣
When the junior devs get too expensive they can outsource all of their software development to Bangladesh
When offshore-sourced code gets too shitty they can hire some senior engineers to rebuild it in a way that’s compatible with the rest of their ecosystem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GithubCopilot/ right now is entertaining
The tears are delicious
Gonna be hilarious when the people who haven’t been paying attention realize that they just replaced workers with shit that doesn’t work AND actually costs more.
Yep, I’ve been telling anyone who’ll listen that if you really want to drop juniors and give tools to seniors, then you have to pay the monthly cost (whatever it will be) and you have to be ready to foot the big bill in 5 years when your seniors (with no candidate replacements) say they’ll take a 50% raise or walk.
This is the right way to go. This will incentivize many companies to rethink their strategy, and slow down or scale down AI adoption. After that and the revenue drops for many AI companies, they will back off purchasing all possible RAM and storage in existence which will drive down pricing. And when the prices get to normal again, we will simply buy more RAM for our local machines and run free models.
This news kinda makes me happy. Shit’s starting to fall apart. Finally.
Users on annual Pro or Pro+ plans will remain on their existing plan with premium request-based pricing until their plan expires, however, model multipliers will increase on June 1 (see table).
holy shit, 9x the previous cost. which was already not great. I was on the fence about cancelling it, but thanks for making up my mind, MS
I love that their email made it sound like it was a wash, like “we’re just changing our billing model, you’ll get credits now, samesies!” but then this pricing chart buried 3-levels down from the announcement lays out just how much less you’re going to get for the same price.
I wonder about all the startups who were bragging about their $10k/month AI coding bills being the best money they ever spent. When this new pricing kicks in and pushes it to $40k/month right around the time all the vibe-coded shit blows up their codebase, I wonder if they’ll still be so happy with their choices.
I interviewed for a place a while back and started asking about quality and velocity and how they balance it with AI developer tools, he said something like “One of our developers closed 400 PRs last month” and I instantly knew it was definitely not the place for me.
So, did they use AI tools to type “LGTM” 400 times or nah?
But yeah, I also find that frustrating. Management just looks at terrible metrics like PRs closed or lines of code produced.
It’s not even novel that you can produce terrible code very quickly. Decades ago, our industry learned that it isn’t worth it, because you suffer for it later. Now the game is altered slightly and management demands that we throw all these learnings out the window.
They should really describe this as you’re on the same plan, but your plan gives you 80-88% less use.
That’s been their business model for a while now. “Here’s something you also didn’t ask for”
Which is a crime, by the way, when you sell it together with a product you hold a monopoly for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)
Yeah, but on the other hand look at the ballroom they’ve donated to (for completely non-corrupt reasons).
You’re looking at Claude, I don’t See Copilot
Edit: ignore me, I finally reviewed the article and is through GH, not actual MS 365 page.
copilot isnt amodel. its a front end that lets ypu pick a model. that table shows usage costs.
Tale as old as time. Corpos try to get you dependent and then give your business an atomic wedgie.
watch me go back to debugging like a real engineer: copying and pasting from stack overflow
Stack overflow is not what it used to be
at this rate, it will be
Amen
The good news is that none of the companies pushing these products have created the dependency yet, and they are running out of venture capital almost too fast to have the option.
I really hope you’re right. My employer is using it as a crutch. I don’t think they can stop using AI because they just don’t have enough skilled employees to deliver on their commitments. They would pay nearly any price, and I’m sure they’re not alone.
They would pay nearly any price
Literally any price except paying skilled employees.
That costs actual money though
For the cost of one employee you can give 5 employees AI and tell them to work 10x faster while they have to wrestle the stupid AI.
You aren’t wrong, but even if LLMs didn’t exist, employers would invent a scapegoat to make the same demands of their employees.
Getting de-skilled is starting to look like a very expensive gamble and this is just the first price hike, expect more to come. And expect them to criminalize open source models as well with some national security concerns or something.
Inline completions are genuinely useful, I’m mostly replacing them with local models though. They are slower but free as in beer (once you pay the hardware cost).
I’m interested in setting it up, are you using vs code? Which extension or editor?
I’m using vim with minuet-ai, and it plugs the AI suggestion into my completion module. I found the Copilot style virtual text janky.
So, not free. Just capital expense instead of operational.
Sure, but hopefully small code completion (2-4b range) models can run locally on a lot of things. They’re just less good.
Claude is cutting back on usage policy for pro users…
GitHub CoPilot is now doing it too…
It’s not hard to see the future, AI companies bought up all the RAM creating a shortage which raises prices for all of us across the board.
Now they’re going to throttle and limit access to it behind a paywall per transaction. The future is so stupid. Can we just go back to dial up internet and IRC? It was a much simpler time.
You could also just not use these services. You don’t need them. They were a stupid idea to begin with.
It’s why I only use the free versions of these lol
Of course it is… Funny though, bc nobody really uses it at work, so our pricing should theoretically go down… But I doubt it, MS will find a way to make it go up
Well, base prices stay the same. They seem to just be billing more per usage on top of that…
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Well, I’m officially canceling my GH copilot sub. Wtf is this?
Been feeling like we were going to see a cheap ai compute rug pull soon.
Imagine paying for gpt-4o in 2026.
Wtf is this?
The most foreseeable event of the last 20 years.
Massive out of this world investment + no demand = prices so cheap they were operating at a huge loss
Operating at a huge loss + time = huge enshittification
Raising prices is the easiest form of enshittification. Ads are coming too. Lastly it will be degrading features. Incorporating more features that no one wants, and bundling with other services that no one wants.
All 0 multiplier gone from pricing.
People were using free agent swarms for stuff.
