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    because some people want to watch videos on their desktop PCs, in the browser, without downloading them.

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      There are numerous media players like mpvthat can stream youtube. These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

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        There are numerous media players like mpv

        that are not a part of the browser

        they also sell their user’s information.

        I wish you a very [citation needed].

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          I wish you a very [citation needed].

          These instances are not much popular so there isn’t much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn’t.

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            there isn’t much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn’t.

            and only one of us posted a claim without backing it up with proof.

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            I have evidence that some don’t. I am personnaly part of an association running a public instance with no user data sold whatsoever.

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              I have evidence that some don’t.

              Where? No one posted evidence in this thread.

              some don’t.

              But some do. You can never be sure about all of them do same. Also what if some instances are running modified version of it.

              personnaly

              personally.

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                Of course you can never be sure. But you cannot be sure about any local player either. Even if it is libre software, it rely on trust. Or you would have to read every piece of software used. In the same way that some software are trustworthy enough to use, some hosts are too.

                Sorry if I sound aggressive, I just try to be short <3 !

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        These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

        Citation needed

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        These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

        I’ve long wondered about this regarding alternate frontends for big sites in general, but especially about the youtube frontends like piped and invidious which must require substantial resources to operate (though sometimes they’re serving the video data itself directly from google, sometimes they’re actually proxying it too)… but, I’ve never seen any evidence of it. Have you?

        In any case, many of the popular instances are running on Microsoft or Oracle clouds, and/or Clownflare, so, from a privacy standpoint it isn’t really much different than Google. I use them occasionally in Tor Browser just because they’re less likely to be blocking a Tor exit than youtube proper is.

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            sure it is, i do it all the time. sometimes i’ll get a too-slow circuit and need to try another, but, it works on the first try more often than not.

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        I’ve seen no reason to believe any privacy frontend I’ve used has done this. However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.

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          However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.

          That’s exactly what I said.

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              There are numerous media players like mpvthat can stream youtube.

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                …yes, but freetube is actually comparable to the featureset of newpipe, piped, or invidious.

                You’re approaching this as a confrontation when it isn’t one. You listed two players which are not necessarily replacements for a desktop user who wants subscription management and such, so I provided one which does.