Here is a secret for cheap E cars.
buy second hand
I am about to get a 3 year old long range audi for half the price of my KIA hatchback EV
40K is still a huge threshold.
I came here looking for this. I get inflation and all, but I bought my car new for €12k in 2017. A sedan with good gasoline range, spacious, big trunk.
With inflation this should still be below 20k today, but no…
What car would that have been?
Seat Toledo with all 4 disk brakes.
I’ll assume this wasn’t in Germany?
You are correct… What is it with price in Germany? The model I bought wasn’t even a base model, that one was 9.990,00 EUR.
Car prices and quality vary from country to country.
Car prices in Germany are nuts.
Yes.
You can get a new EV for under 30k these days. ICE cars are still cheaper but if you consider the total cost of ownership, they’re pretty competitive.
Still too expensive.
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Also no car on the list uses LFP batteries, show
es a lag behind China.Stellantis is absolute dogshit. Per example, the C3 is a combustion car with an electric motor (and a battery). It has no electric perks. I hated it. Electric cars need pure electric platforms.
I would never buy a Stellantis car. Stellantis is the bargain bin of the automotive industry and you get what you pay for.
I don’t know. I’ve had a Fiat 500 electric for almost four years, and I love it!
Same with the Mercedes EQA, EQB and EQC.
Interesting! Can you explain what you missed and what you’d have needed in the C3? Why can’t you build an electric car alongside an ICE car and have a good EV?
No one‑pedal driving, no regeneration settings (actually there aren’t settings for most features). The D for drive is on a lever you pull backward and R is forward. When D was selected the car crept forward like a combustion‑engine vehicle without pressing the pedal. Fake and poor range estimate. Slow charging speed. I don’t remember everything, but I know I hated driving it compared to my Kia EV3.
EVs need a dedicated electric platform so they can have a larger battery, a frunk, and no central transmission hump inside the cabin.
Edit: A dedicated electric platform also means software built for electric vehicles (not shared with an ICE platform).Thanks! I’ve never driven an EV and it shows
I’m pretty sure you CAN do it because from everything I see, the new BMW i cars (so not the 3 or 8) are pretty great?
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Why not “Smart EQ forfour” for ~25T EUR in the List?
I’m voting for k€
I think that’s not in production any more, so if it’s available new they’ll just be selling off some left over inventory.
You’re probably right. And the new Versions (2, 3 and 4 in future) are much more expensive. I really hate it.
