I find the opposite more annoying. If your memory of those events is accurate there’s plenty of things to point to to back it up.
But then you have older people like my father who…I don’t know, something has completely rewritten their memories of significant events to the point where he claims many things happened differently than verifiable recorded history. It’s impossible to argue with that because of him seeing me pointing out that’s not true as an attack and accusing him of lying.
My favorite was arguing with a much older (late 70s) friend of my dad’s about how Obama ruined the economy and stock market, and when I told him that was objectively not true and the GFC was in full swing well before Obama was even elected, he was like “I know because I owned stocks and stuff, how would you even know?” Even when I pulled up a graph of the S&P 500 and showed the days he was elected and sworn in, he just said “Oh, that can’t be right, the graph must be wrong”. Showing the DOW and other composites from multiple sources did nothing to convince him. He was absolutely positive his retirement fund was doing great up until Obama was elected.
Yes Jerry, I’m sure that the entire stock market was just wrong, and it’s not the fact you consume nothing but FOX News and will only refer to the 44th president as “The N*gger” potentially causing a bit of bias.
something has completely rewritten their memories of significant events to the point where he claims many things happened differently than verifiable recorded history.
That’s what they want you to think.
Sadly, “they” has shifted from “the gubment” to “the Jews”.
It was weird to read about protests that I attended that were completely different from my experience. That was the first time I realized that no one in the media necessarily eventually gets the story right.
Sadly, even the supposedly left-aligned media in the 5-eyes countries tends to strongly favour the status quo, motivating them to paint leftists protestors in a bad light as the right wing dishonestly media backs Nazi-aligned shitheels.
What would you think if your parents say it’s time to put you up for adoption every time you get into an argument? What a fucking weird thing to get upset over and think of throwing your parents away just because of an argument
Educating a child and arguing about things is one of the most normal things in the world. Dealing with an adult who refuses to acknowledge objective reality is a sign of mental decline. These two things are not the same.
Also, my parents threatened to sell me to gypsies (oof, that does not age well) throughout my childhood so…
Sadly, when a significant percentage of the country’s population refuses to acknowledge objective reality, it’s no longer really a sign of individual mental decline.
Like, maybe 30% of the population should be in the looney bin, but that’s in no way practical.
Fr it adult homes make sense for people without children or problematic families, but how can you take a person who has raised you and showered you with love and stick him in a glorified hospital?
but how can you take a person who has raised you and showered you with love and stick him in a glorified hospital?
Because they didnt.
I have no interest in so much as talking to my parents. They did the bare minimum to get me to 18 and that was it. Everything else was for them. So fuck you if I don’t want to give them the same goddamn treatment so I can break the cycle and focus on my own damn family.
Because they need more living space and socialization with their peers than you have in your home? Have you ever lived in an apartment or condo instead of a single family home out in the country? Was it horrible to live with lots of people your own age instead of with your parents?
My mother in law is busy constantly hosting dinner parties in her condo at the retirement center where she lives. Retirement centers vary based on amount of care needed.
Or maybe someone rewrote the books. I’ve long had a suspicion a lot of the Mandela effect is just people with long memories who missed the propaganda rewrite.
I find it strange that people somehow mistrust all of the news and history of today but think the very same news sources and historians of the past were somehow accurate.
The news is written in a hurry. History is written with perspective. Both are drawing upon the same sources in the modern era except the history has more time to cross reference them. It is only natural that we get a better, clearer version of history as time and research is allowed to work on it.
I’m convinced humans have some kind of natural inherent fetishization of “old knowledge”.
If it happened outside of living memory they somehow knew more or had special magical knowledge we just don’t understand or can’t interpret from our perspective. The older, the more true people can be convinced that it is.
As if there is some kind of “platonic ideal” of thoughts or ideas from which all others are derived from, where the further back something back it is, it MUST be more true
The Romans did this very thing. One of the reasons the Jews got special treatment (pre-Jewish war and exhile) from sacrificing to the Roman Gods was because their at-that-time monotheistic religion was considered ancient and the Romans respected ancient. A huge part of early Christianity involved the Christians trying to convince the Romans that they were the new Israel and therefore deserving of toleration despite refusing to honor the Roman and local Gods (instead of the Jews).
The moment the Christians had real power, they went from begging for tolerance, to crushing paganism and persecuting Jews (who had the gall to challenge the validity of their cooption of Judaism).
No doubt, I’m sure if we pulled up some 2k yo racist screed against Picts or whatever, we’d be like ahhh ancient wisdom we must treasure it, whereas now I just block people lol
I really hope this is just missing the /s at the end.
But in case it isn’t…
Which is more likely? That all the media outlets have gone through all of their records and replaced them with different records and all the books out there have been trashed and replaced with new books saying different things and the internet has been scrubbed of all of the real stories and photos and replaced with fake ones? Or that a few misguided people, who weren’t paying very close attention in the first place, misremembered an event?
I find the opposite more annoying. If your memory of those events is accurate there’s plenty of things to point to to back it up.
But then you have older people like my father who…I don’t know, something has completely rewritten their memories of significant events to the point where he claims many things happened differently than verifiable recorded history. It’s impossible to argue with that because of him seeing me pointing out that’s not true as an attack and accusing him of lying.
My favorite was arguing with a much older (late 70s) friend of my dad’s about how Obama ruined the economy and stock market, and when I told him that was objectively not true and the GFC was in full swing well before Obama was even elected, he was like “I know because I owned stocks and stuff, how would you even know?” Even when I pulled up a graph of the S&P 500 and showed the days he was elected and sworn in, he just said “Oh, that can’t be right, the graph must be wrong”. Showing the DOW and other composites from multiple sources did nothing to convince him. He was absolutely positive his retirement fund was doing great up until Obama was elected.
Yes Jerry, I’m sure that the entire stock market was just wrong, and it’s not the fact you consume nothing but FOX News and will only refer to the 44th president as “The N*gger” potentially causing a bit of bias.
That’s what they want you to think.
Sadly, “they” has shifted from “the gubment” to “the Jews”.
It was weird to read about protests that I attended that were completely different from my experience. That was the first time I realized that no one in the media necessarily eventually gets the story right.
Sadly, even the supposedly left-aligned media in the 5-eyes countries tends to strongly favour the status quo, motivating them to paint leftists protestors in a bad light as the right wing dishonestly media backs Nazi-aligned shitheels.
Sounds like it’s time to stick him in a home
What would you think if your parents say it’s time to put you up for adoption every time you get into an argument? What a fucking weird thing to get upset over and think of throwing your parents away just because of an argument
Educating a child and arguing about things is one of the most normal things in the world. Dealing with an adult who refuses to acknowledge objective reality is a sign of mental decline. These two things are not the same.
Also, my parents threatened to sell me to gypsies (oof, that does not age well) throughout my childhood so…
Sadly, when a significant percentage of the country’s population refuses to acknowledge objective reality, it’s no longer really a sign of individual mental decline.
Like, maybe 30% of the population should be in the looney bin, but that’s in no way practical.
Fr it adult homes make sense for people without children or problematic families, but how can you take a person who has raised you and showered you with love and stick him in a glorified hospital?
Because they didnt.
I have no interest in so much as talking to my parents. They did the bare minimum to get me to 18 and that was it. Everything else was for them. So fuck you if I don’t want to give them the same goddamn treatment so I can break the cycle and focus on my own damn family.
Love how you ignored the other part of my comment.
Because they need more living space and socialization with their peers than you have in your home? Have you ever lived in an apartment or condo instead of a single family home out in the country? Was it horrible to live with lots of people your own age instead of with your parents?
My mother in law is busy constantly hosting dinner parties in her condo at the retirement center where she lives. Retirement centers vary based on amount of care needed.
What a weirdly aggressive comment, calm down. It’s a comment section on the internet, don’t get so emotional.
Or maybe someone rewrote the books. I’ve long had a suspicion a lot of the Mandela effect is just people with long memories who missed the propaganda rewrite.
I find it strange that people somehow mistrust all of the news and history of today but think the very same news sources and historians of the past were somehow accurate.
The news is written in a hurry. History is written with perspective. Both are drawing upon the same sources in the modern era except the history has more time to cross reference them. It is only natural that we get a better, clearer version of history as time and research is allowed to work on it.
I’m convinced humans have some kind of natural inherent fetishization of “old knowledge”.
If it happened outside of living memory they somehow knew more or had special magical knowledge we just don’t understand or can’t interpret from our perspective. The older, the more true people can be convinced that it is.
As if there is some kind of “platonic ideal” of thoughts or ideas from which all others are derived from, where the further back something back it is, it MUST be more true
The Romans did this very thing. One of the reasons the Jews got special treatment (pre-Jewish war and exhile) from sacrificing to the Roman Gods was because their at-that-time monotheistic religion was considered ancient and the Romans respected ancient. A huge part of early Christianity involved the Christians trying to convince the Romans that they were the new Israel and therefore deserving of toleration despite refusing to honor the Roman and local Gods (instead of the Jews).
The moment the Christians had real power, they went from begging for tolerance, to crushing paganism and persecuting Jews (who had the gall to challenge the validity of their cooption of Judaism).
No doubt, I’m sure if we pulled up some 2k yo racist screed against Picts or whatever, we’d be like ahhh ancient wisdom we must treasure it, whereas now I just block people lol
I really hope this is just missing the /s at the end.
But in case it isn’t…
Which is more likely? That all the media outlets have gone through all of their records and replaced them with different records and all the books out there have been trashed and replaced with new books saying different things and the internet has been scrubbed of all of the real stories and photos and replaced with fake ones? Or that a few misguided people, who weren’t paying very close attention in the first place, misremembered an event?
All I know is that Fruit of the Loom fucked me up in a big way
I’m still not sure about The Berenstein Bears or Sinbad’s Genie movie…