• SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    The only good gun is a safe, easy to draw gun that can be kept in your home or car and be used against would be attackers, gay bashers, rapists, and anyone else posing immediate harm to your life.

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      Theoretically, yes. Practically, that’s just not how introducing a large number of firearms into a society goes. It makes everyone jumpier. Police are quicker to shoot because that person could be reaching for a firearm. Criminals have easier access to heavier weapons. Suicides are more likely to be done with a gun and succeed. The adage “a well armed society is a polite society” simply has not been demonstrated to be true.

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      Have a gun at home, car or bag does not protect you from anything, it only has the risk that you will be unable to remove it quickly enough to defend yourself or, worse, that an attacker takes it from you, entering the circulation of illegal weapons, as there are so many.

      In the EU there is 10% of the crimes that there are in the US, despite the strict regulation of weapons that exist. In order to be able to carry a weapon in the EU, it is first necessary to have good reasons for it, mainly for people who are at special risk, for example a business in a troubled neighborhood, security personnel, hunters who may have a hunting rifle, etc…

      A psychological test is required, and a police certificate. Assault and semi-automatic rifles are reserved exclusively for military and police forces. A society where everyone can carry a gun is a retrograde and profoundly sick society in risk, that’s for sure.

      Always keep in mind, once a weapon has been fired in a populated city, no one can control where this bullet ends up, if the shot missed.

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          3 years ago

          Luckily that kind of thing doesnt really happen in civilized countries.

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                3 years ago

                Not everyone lives in one though. I can’t fucking make thousands of dollars appear out of nowhere and move out of the US. This is where I was born, and it’s where I intend to die.

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                  He’s also wrong. In many “civilized” (which btw every time I say that I feel icky, it feels racist) countries most burglaries are “hot” burglaries, in which the burgaler breaks in while the person is home. This of course carries with it a greater risk of violence as opposed to America where for “some reason” most of our burglaries are when the person is not home. There are also around, and I am going to use the LOWEST estimate from the harvard study that is used to “debunk” defensive gun use, 100,000 defensive gun uses in the country yearly. Compared to 60k gun deaths, 12k of those being homicide, 100k>60k>12k.

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        In the EU there is 10% of the crimes that there are in the US, despite the strict regulation of weapons that exist.

        Not despite, but because of regulation.