AI-generated videos promoting Poland’s exit from the European Union have appeared on Polish-language social media, featuring non-existent, attractive young women advocating for “Polexit”.

One TikTok account called “Prawilne Polki” published content showing women dressed in T-shirts bearing Polish flags and patriotic symbols, European analytics collective Res Futura said. The content targeted audiences aged 15 to 25.

The videos featured statements including: “I want Polexit because I want freedom of choice, even if it will be more expensive. I don’t remember Poland before the European Union, but I feel it was more Polish then.”

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    Apparently this was a real strategy on twitter for the 2024 election: videos of hot women followed by trump messages aimed at young men…and it seems to have worked to at least get them off the couch…just be aware of it ffs (fucking monkey brains)

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          That too was a Russian psyop. If we don’t fight this shit, Poland will fall for it, they are ripe for this type of demagoguery.

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            I just expected poles to be more resistent to self-harm narratives from russia…even if they are not explicitly about russia. So much for “russophobia”.

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      This was a thing in 2016. They photoshop Trump logos on to photographs of women’s clothing. They photoshops MAGA hats on to them. There was whole subreddits dedicated to churning out this content.

      And of course this probably comes as no surprise to anyone. All of this likely traces back to Obama Girl. Anyone remember that. They basically cribbed notes from the '08 Obama campaign. Everyone believes narrative that Trump pioneered using the internet to campaign especially to the younger generations. Not true. Obama did first.

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    I think the appropriate response to this is to make AI videos of beatiful russian women telling russians to revolt against Putin

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      Besides of the “This is the weapon of the enemy” frame from The Dark Knight Returns, let me remind you who runs and trains these AI models. They want the EU gone. At best, you’ll be shoveling money into it, at worst your IP will be terminated for “spam”.

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        They thought pushing UK out of the EU would break it And we grew stronger than ever.

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          Poland’s exit isn’t the breaking of the EU. It’s proving a plan of attack that will break it.

          Slowly chipping away at the edges. Attacking country by country with misinformation until every country is isolated again, ruled by whatever oligarch decides to set up shop there.

          The point of a union is the united effort. If you start thinking in terms of what parts you can cut out without issue or to “grow stronger” then you might as well stop the charade and pick who’s running the new empire.

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        The Pussy Riot “girls” are in their thirties, approaching forty. They are exiled and declared to be a terrorist organisation. And they are feminists and Punk. Wonderful, strong, independent women.

        If you want to use sex to sell the idea of a breakup of the Russian empire to Russian men, I’m not sure whether Pussy Riot will work.

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          Thirty is young enough, but if younger people want to speak then it’s great. I hope it’d more convincing to have real humans speak out than bots.

          Russians opposing Putin are eventually declared extremist and either in exile, poisoned, or sent to prison.

          So the only persons alive and able to openly critize Putin are outside Russia.

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        fair enough but maybe they will stop this stupidity if they realize it is very easy for this to backfire

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          Oh, no-no-no, they will not stop, and on top of it they will not realise it is easy to backfire. If anything I would expect them to double down, and even after revolt, if it ever comes their way, they will be puzzled as to what could’ve been wrong

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      If I lived in Russia, I probably wouldn’t want to fight a civil war. I’d just leave.

      I think that the problem that the Kremlin is going to face isn’t a civil war, but a combination of population leaving and having a hard time attracting immigration. Like, sure, the people in power get control of mines and oil wells and such, but they’re going to erode the country with policies like this.

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      The appropriate response is sending more weapons and ammo to Ukraine

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        Sad. It’s pathetic that our society is captured by oligarchs that appreciate the brainwashing and have no desire to counter it.

        If only one side is willing to use a weapon, only one side can see the value in negotiating it off the table. Russia needs a reason to agree to stop, and using these methods to topple Putin gets us closer to that discussion, but that would mean acknowledging the use of similar practices by corpo-fascists domestically.

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      The easiest solution is to have the USA annex Russia. That stops the tomfoolery that Russia exerts in every area, including the US.

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        I don’t want Russia.

        Geographically, the US has the benefit of distance from other major powers, and that would in part go away. Russia already blows a bunch of money trying to secure the Far East by getting Russians to live out there.

        Russia has a shit-load of problems that have to be solved, from political to AIDS epidemic.

        We can already get population while filtering out people who don’t want to be here by just allowing immigration. Annex something and you have to fight the people who don’t want to be there. Immigration is a much better way to get people.

        Russia has natural resources, but we have most of the same ones already in North America, and they aren’t that valuable; resource extraction isn’t most of our economy.

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          You’re right, the whole republican arm of our government supports Russia. However, Russia is both the ripest it has ever been and the most vulnerable it has ever been.

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    The EU needs to finally take this threat seriously and respond with even more attractive Ai women.

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      There is a much more obvious country that has a vested interest in dividing western democracies, and weakening organizations that unite them, such as NATO and the EU, a country that’s currently in a proxy and hybrid war with Europe, and a country that has long understood the importance of information warfare: Russia.

      Of course with the Trump administration, you never know, but then you could also ask yourself: if Trump was a Russian agent, how different would his actions be? Not very different I think.

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        if Trump was a Russian agent, how different would his actions be?

        Trump wouldn’t have sent arms like Javelins to Ukraine in 2018 and he would have stopped messing around in Syria.

        more obvious country that has a vested interest in dividing western democracies

        Only in the short term, to gain advantage in the war. Which other option than cooperarion would have been better for Russia? As the other submission about carving up Russia by China shows, China is only the second best option.

        https://feddit.org/post/23648591

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    People need to stop watching slop. But I feel like the kind of idiots easily swayed by slop are also the kinds that won’t stop watching it.

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    And much like the UK version it will be led by a grotty old white man with bad teeth and a pocket full of roubles.

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      Maybe, Poland joined the EU in 2004.

      But for this case, it doesn’t really matter. Mix some vague ideals of freedom and more polish and you’re good to go.

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      At least they arw the voters that have to live with the consequences of it. Not like the brexit voters that half of them are already dead.

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    Bigger question is… is it effective? That’s the worrysome part. It worked (not videos, but literally fake news) for the UK. The hybrid war on Europe has reached new heights. Any Poles that want to chip in?

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      Also what do we do as counter measure? Generate videos to promote EU and then throw that out there? How do we deal with that?

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        Work on reducing the frustrations of the target demographic of this propaganda. For example, the housing crisis. Or the rich getting richer while stealing the future of the young.

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          The problem is a lot of these things take many many years to make better.

          A lot of actions were taking here years ago and were starting to see rents come down, but it isn’t a fast thing.

          Then with people having the memory of a goldfish, the people trying to at least partially fix things don’t get the outcome fast enough because it’s slow, and the right wing fascists come in and say see, it didn’t work, and tear it all down. Then due to the delay in everything the previous governments actions start to show some benefit and the fascists say, see we did it, until things turn to shit and the people wanting to fix things take over again.

          And the cycle never fucking ends.

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        Spend billions of dollars on public education, with a focus on critical analysis, starting 50 years ago.

        Failing that, I don’t know, get rid of the ultra wealthy?

        I don’t know how I feel about ai slop that promotes good ideas. That sounds like a deal with the devil. But if there is going to be slop, I’d rather it be promoting stuff like “workers together are stronger”

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          I agree in a better world education should prevent most people from disinformation but with ai in the mix analysing info to detect fakes gets harder and harder. Trying to combat disinformation by explaining things takes too long. By the time we explained one thing 100 new fake news get published. Since I don’t have a solution my only thought was copying ai slop but with facts and fire it back into the internet. Make it scream from every side. Eventually social media is just ai slop.

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            Another possibly viable solution would be to focus our energy on creating tools that detects llm slop with certainty and embed them everywhere.

            Throwing more generated llm trash into the air will only increase confusion and will backfire / have unexpected results.

            Platforms like Xitter and Facebook et el should be eliminated and dismantled. We should take back the internet and free it once again

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          What about fighting back with porn of these same AI propagandists saying I’m fake, but I’m a patriotic Pole and I’ll fuck you!

          Porn, and gets across they aren’t real.

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        You don’t fight fire with fire. Disinformation can only be fought with exposure and transparency. Is it “the dream” to be in the EU? No. But it damn well has its benefits. And neither Russia, nor USA have any interest for a strong, independent Europe.

        A campaign that fights the bulshit being spread around, with actual facts and sources - that, unfortunately, is boring. So, maybe, real OF models need to volunteer to deliver facts while wearing skimpy clothing? I don’t know. “Paid for” messages can and will come across as insincere.

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      Pole chipping in. From what I’ve read, this psy-op has been in effect for around two weeks, but this is the first time I hear of it.

      Doesn’t have to mean it wasn’t effective, though. It’s probably just waiting to hit critical mass. And when it does, knowing the current state of our demographic, it might sway a very significant amount of people towards the literal Torment Nexus from the classic novel Don’t Build The Torment Nexus

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    Due to tight controls over the media in authoritarian regimes like China or Russia, they aren’t as vulnerable to this vector of foreign propaganda. But they sure as hell make a tonne of this kind of thing and ship it overseas. How can this asymmetry be addressed or mitigated?

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    Lol, if something should break up, it’s the Russian Federation. It’s always reflection with these people.

    Are we too classy to start a similar campaign in Russia?

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      We don’t need to lie to point out the obvious. Every dirt poor ethnic minority far from Moscow knows this already

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        Russians, I hope. But if we look at history, it’s more likely that the answer is almost everyone else as well.

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    Man the fake news machine is rampid. Lookup “Ukraine war” on YouTube. Just pages upon pages of AI generated news.