They could look into repurposing farming equipment and supplies given all the shortages they’re experiencing

Everyone knows that gases are the most convenient option, too. None of the logistical issues of solids and none of the messiness of liquids.

בית גידול?

“But it’s not their final solution, so it’s ok.”

so when the entire population of gaza strip gets murdered is your argument gonna be “it’s not a holocaust because there were only 2.2 million Palestinians to begin with”

Only pure death figures which match Auschwitz are actual genocides. Got you.

(Fucking what?)

See that’s where you are wrong. Calling evil by showing how it is similar to another evil isn’t trying to minimize one. Is it just about numbers? Their universities, schools, hospitals, records and cultures are being destroyed as we speak. Children are being starved. So you’re saying this isn’t evil enough? Comparing numbers is Israili propaganda at this point. Never again means never again for anyone.

Do you think the dead notice the difference?

You can compare them in that they are both genocides. The Holocaust was certainly a genocide done on a much larger scale, especially near the end of Nazi Germany. But there isn’t a certain death count needed to count as a genocide, we have multiple international definitions to determine and (ideally) prevent them.

Leaving aside the fact that it’s not the volume that defines genocide, what you’re saying doesn’t seem to take into account the way that genocide ramped up from a lower initial death rate. The Nazis weren’t killing anything like that in the first 6 months.

• Aid agencies like UNICEF are saying that at the moment a child is wounded or killed every ten minutes in Gaza.

• In 0.5 years the Gaza genocide has already killed about 1.5% of the population. By comparison the Bosnian genocide killed 3% of the population over 2 years.

Yes, this comment is absurd. Don’t do that.

If you’re arguing about volume when we’re talking about a fascist occupier murdering ethnic prisoners during a genocide, your argument the way the fuck off base.

I refuse to believe that a sane, rational person would put forth such a braindead argument in good faith.

(With my apologies to any braindead people and their families/friends for the unflattering use of the adjective.)

Unhinged lunacy.

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What are you some kind of antifa-cist‽

After spending the morning reading about the history of Zionism and direct quotes from a bunch of those dudes, honestly, your comment sounds like everything is going exactly to plan.

'In 1938, Ben Gurion described the conflict with the Arabs as “in its essence a political one… politically we are the aggressors and they [the Arabs] defend themselves.” Israeli historian Benny Morris affirms Ben Gurion’s description, saying: “Ben-Gurion, of course, was right” and goes on to describe Zionism as “a colonizing and expansionist ideology and movement” whose “ideology and practice were necessarily and elementally expansionist.” Morris describes the Zionist goal of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine as necessarily displacing and dispossessing the Arab population. The practical issue of establishing a Jewish state in a majority non-Jewish and Arab region was a fundamental issue for the Zionist movement. Revisionist Zionist Ze’ev Jabotinsky described the notion of “transfer” (the Zionist euphemism for ethnic cleansing of the Arab Palestinian population) as a “brutal expulsion” which could resolve this challenge. The idea of transfer was not unique to Revisionist Zionism, in fact, as explained by Morris, “the idea of transferring the Arabs out… was seen as the chief means of assuring the stability of the ‘Jewishness’ of the proposed Jewish State”.

According to Morris, the idea of ethnically cleansing the land of Palestine was to play a large role in Zionist ideology from the inception of the movement. He explains that “transfer” was “inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism” and that a land which was primarily Arab could not be transformed into a Jewish state without displacing the Arab population. Further, the stability of the Jewish state could not be ensured given the Arab population’s fear of displacement. He explains that this would be the primary source of conflict between the Zionist movement and the Arab population.’

Mind you, that’s Wikipedia, but none the less.

This is why human rights should apply to humans, and not citizens.

So… Basically FISA?

We will never even know if anyone in Guantanamo is even a terrorist though.

You just assume they are because that’s what Rumsfeld and Cheney told you.

But without due process there’s no actual way of determining it.

I think many voters’ positions have evolved on Israel now that the world is watching them commit genocide. Voters will now be able to choose which side of genocide they are on.

Obviously conservatives (including neoliberals) will be pro-genocide. But we need to start running candidates that appeal to non-conservative and progressive voters.