every day it gets more incredible to me that people are so fucking addicted to fake validation and fake likes from fake friends that they still use fucking twitter
Yeah! I like my fake validation and fake likes from anonymous friends over here on lemmy. Fake friends are overrated.
the secret is i don’t think anyone on lemmy is my friend. i find everyone here frustrating and annoying! the system works!
Damn,… Ruffalo looks young in this picture… then I realize, he was and we all got fucking old. This was 13 years ago!!!
…hey. Stop that.
Respect the rules! We all pretend 2005 was 4 years ago and 2014 was last year.
Bullshit! 1995 was 4 years ago. 2004 was last year.
Yep! Wait until you have kids that are older than your co-workers.
Source: My kids are older than many of my co-workers. It sucks.
The only way to fight it is to stay fit as fuck. Oh and retire early like I did. Takes some of the pain out of getting older!
Exactly my plan my friend! Why bother grinding if you can’t afford anything? Better grind less and live more.
Agreed. I basically took early retirement–I’m 55.
My pension is small since I bailed early, but I have zero debt, and very few bills, so I get by just fine. My kids are grown. My house and cars are paid off. Property taxes here are very low.
Sure, I won’t be traveling the world, but the park next to my house is beautiful, and I can see the mountains from my front porch. All is good.
Good luck to ya, mate!
I did that and “retired” to a ski resort in my mid 20s and pursued snowboarding instead. I’ve worked a variety of odd jobs to feed the habit and I’m lucky to be talented enough to be flowed gear.
If working a corporate 40 hr a week job that requires a degree doesn’t pay enough for me to move out of my moms house in NY and get an apt of my own somewhere nearby then fuck it, I’ll take some nonsense jobs and move to where I want and leave the grind entirely. My life is their $20k vacation. I’ve had more powder days than those rats in the race.
Wait how do you have coworkers as a retired person?
Not really. I mean I volunteer at the school where I worked, so I still count them as my coworkers… But since I don’t get paid, I guess technically they aren’t. But what would you call them?
You say that like Twitter isn’t also full of self-important asshats
There’s a pretty big difference between drinking mild poisons at a Nazi bar and a local bar. Zoomed out, sure, drinking alcohol at all can be considered pretty dubious, but the difference between the two scenarios remains.
edit: replace what autocorrect put as “consistent” to “considered”
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That is literally how I described it, yes.
*cries in fake friend*
The dumbass kid at work “I just use it for the art profiles I follow.” Not worth it kid, not worth it at all.
Ah yes… “art”.
He does a ton of digital art, so I generally believe him on that. He’s also pretty asexual so I don’t think he’s looking at porn. He’d be more likely to be looking at Fortnite skins.
Twitter is a weird platform for that
Yeah, naughtymachinima is a better platform for watching Fortnite skins
Exactly my thoughts
I learned a long time ago that for me, social media is an output. I drop it and leave it. I don’t fucking care who reads it, or if they liked it.
I was going to delete this, but I guessi already typed it
A guy from South Africa made his app anti-black? Shocking.
The white guy who is only rich because of black oppression in South Africa, in fact.
Does this comment/joke assume all white South Africans are racist?
No. It simply states that it’s not surprising when one is.
That’s kinda bigoted
It’s bigoted to invade a county and extort them for labor because you believe the native population to be inferior.
I know. It is also bigoted to say you’re not surprised by a white South African being racist. That’s like saying you’re not surprised by a black African American being a criminal.
No it fucking isn’t
Yes it is. You’re making a judgement about both groups based on the colour of their skin
Also, I wouldn’t frame it the way you framed it, but I don’t think it is racist to say “I’m not surprised by a Black American having a criminal record”. Not because Black Americans are predisposed to crime, but because they are targeted by overpolicing and system racism lmao.
Edit: 1/7ish Black American Men have been to prison. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5996985/#%3A~%3Atext=We+estimate+that+3+%25+of%2CAfrican+American+adult+male+population.
We had to invent a new term to describe the racism of white south Africans, they’ve earned a little suspicion.
you’re the guy who said that we can’t say the police is a racist organization because there are black cops. I wouldn’t be too involved in race conversations if I were you tbh.
I admit that one might have been a bad take in hindsight, but my stance is unshakeable on this issue
I’m a white guy from Indiana. And if Elon Musk was from Indiana and someone said, “a guy from Indiana made his app anti-black? Shocking.” I’d be like, “I know, right? This state is full of racist as fuck white people.” I wouldn’t be offended.
But he’s not from Indiana though. The point I’m trying to make is that the commenter posed an unfair stereotype which suggested that white South Africans are proclived to racism even though there are no facts to support that argument. There is however evidence to suggest that Indianans or Idahoans or whatever other white inhabitants of famously racist US states are proclived to racism.
Do you see my point?
You’re right, he’s from an even more racist place. So I’m not sure why you think that’s an unfair stereotype when it is a fair one for a U.S. state that never had apartheid or slavery.
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You know South Africa had(has?) apartheid, right? Culturally, yes, they are proclived to racism.
edit: yeah it ended in 1990(1994?). Lmao. Within the last 30 years they were an apartheid state.
Oh no. White people being the target of bigotry? Welcome to the fucking club that they started.
that they started
Are you being serious lol
Yes.
Just calling out the double standard man. We don’t have to continue a bad practice.
Oh, so the oppressed aren’t allowed to dismantle their oppressors? They must rise above and be civil? They are the ones that must be kind and courteous to those who would subjugate them further?
What kind of bootlicker are you?
Are you fucking dumb?
Sir, you are bringing logic to a Lemmy thread where only emotion matters. It doesn’t seem to be going well for you frankly.
It’s flawed logic. Being kind and civil to one’s oppressors is literally further oppression.
Were you one of those people bitching about the 2020 George Floyd protests, too?
I don’t know why i still bother honestly; only to be labelled a fascist/Nazi once they’re done with the downvote bombing. It’s disgusting.
IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon. I really think people are under estimating the severity of the vision these people have for the world.
Can you quantify soon here? I agree with you that they don’t have good intentions, but I think that framing it as like, a planned genocide is not accurate. More realistically what can happen is more systemic injustices and consolidations of power to prevent anyone from resisting.
To start with, their plan for mass deportation probably already counts as a displacement genocide. There will be thousands of deaths from it leaving aside everything else wrong with it.
There are also approximately 3 million trans people in the US. Every single one of them is in danger as the fascists’ chosen scapegoat.
Why do you think that?
Rwandan genocide? The Holocaust? Israeli’s war on Palestinian. Armenian genocide? US chattel slavery? Tulsa Race Massacre? China and how they threat neighbors? South African Apartheid?
Naming genocides that happen doesn’t make the previous statement any more true.
History, and a soupçon of paranoia
Soupçon: A very small amount; a hint; a trace, slight idea; an inkling.
Thank you for the new word, I like it.
I was thinking it was soup can for a moment. Then I realized the C had it’s pants down and it dawned on me that it was a French word.
more like a soup ladle am I right
Not much of a news junkie are you?
kill a whole bunch of people soon
If you don’t couch this a whole lot, it undermines the seriousness of what is actually about to happen.
Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.
Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.
Trans people, the group currently most targeted for elimination by the right, represent about 1% of the US population. Jewish people in pre-Nazi Germany also represented about 1% of the population.
When Republicans past eliminationist laws meant to persecute trans people, deny them from public life, and kill them by taking away their healthcare, they are committing crimes of the same order as what Germany did in the 1930s.
That is simple historical by-the-numbers truth.
The chilling thing for me is that Nazi Germany was able to accomplish this without the technology and mass surveillance we have today.
It will be a slow boil and they’ll arrest people one at a time for “terrorism” and such. I won’t be surprised to see extremist militias going after people as well.
They won’t even need to use terrorism. Right in Project 2025 is a plan to slowly classify any public existence or acknowledgement of LGBT identities as “pornographic.” And in turn classify showing “pornography” to children is pedophilia and worthy of being put on the sex offender registry. They want to make it so if say, a trans woman, goes out in public and a child sees her, then that is the equivalent of grooming an 8 year old child by showing them pornographic videos. Oh, and they also want to attach the death penalty to crimes of pedophilia.
I didn’t see how that will massively backfire on them at all.
You’re assuming the law will be applied consistently.
1% is 3.8 million people. They’ll likely be ostracized, forced into hiding, and we all know the effects of that.
We’re both describing terrible things, terrible things that are short of hunting people down and loading them into trains.
Your comparison does a disservice to everyone. Setting the bar at the damn holocaust gives our opponents an easy out. “They act like we’re”, “we’re just”, are the natural, easy responses.
Don’t give them easy outs. Things can be less terrible than the actual Holocaust and still be terrible.
They’re talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them. Do you really think you can do that without setting up massive camps that match or exceed the scale of anything the Nazis set up? And if you really want to move that many people around, you may end up having to use trains.
Oh, and worse, they have no plan on how to actually deport that many people. The Nazis originally planned to deport all the Jews as well. Yet they quickly found that there simply weren’t enough nations willing to accept all these deportees. Other countries aren’t obligated to accept your deportees.
So you now have millions of people in camps, costing a fortune to maintain, and no where to send these people. That always ends in slavery, death, or death by slavery. Whenever your plan starts with “round up tens of millions of people and put them in camps,” you can guarantee that a massive death toll is going to follow.
And I think your comment here is a hell of a lot more valuable than starting out with “IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon.”
You can’t just skip to the end of the worst case scenario without people blowing you off. I mostly agree with you; I just think that particular messaging is damaging.
I think starting off so dismissive until later in the thread makes it seem very much like you don’t mostly agree and is more damaging to the idea
Maybe I’m unusual here, but if I saw 200 corpses in a big pile, I would think that someone killed a whole bunch of people.
To your point, it’s funny how we frame things depending on the circumstances.
Growing up I always thought the Saint Valentine’s Day Massacre was some huge slaughter where hundreds of people died. Turns out it was seven people. Mobsters, actually, so it could be argued it was “gang violence”, but still. Seven people executed by a rival gang, and it’s a massacre.
At least 37 die, over 800 injured, and over 10000 were left homeless, but Tulsa ignored it for decades, then called it a,“race riot”.
Twenty children and six adults are murdered by a nutter and it’s still not a massacre, but at least it’s “tragic”, which is a step up from the average school shooting, which is normally called “Tuesday”.
Over 45,000 Afghan civilians died from 2001-2021, but that’s not a massacre, just collateral damage.
But that’s over twenty years, of course that’s not a massacre, plus they’re, you know, foreign. Now if 45,000 Americans died in one year, well, that would be different. Except they do, but because they lack insurance coverage. So, you know, that’s their fault for dying of preventable illnesses on account of being poor. That’s not a massacre, just good business.
But one CEO is murdered and it’s a tragedy again
Over 45,000 Afghan civilians died from 2001-2021, but that’s not a massacre, just collateral damage.
But that’s over twenty years, of course that’s not a massacre, plus they’re, you know, foreign. Now if 45,000 Americans died in one year, well, that would be different. Except they do, but because they lack insurance coverage. So, you know, that’s their fault for dying of preventable illnesses on account of being poor. That’s not a massacre, just good business.
And when Israel kills that many Palestinians in one year, college kids get arrested for protesting it while Congress jacks off while rubberstamping another $10 billion of arms sales to Bibi.
Is the holocaust really your measurement for the meaning of “killing a bunch of people?” I don’t think things have to get all that bad to be justified in saying “a bunch of people died.”
When you look into where contemporary right wing ideologies comes from, and what journalists are reporting on in online right wing spaces, a holocaust doesn’t seem out of the question. The Turner Diaries is worth looking into. Robert Evans is also a pretty informed journalist on the matter.
What are you guys talking about?
Stop downvoting and tel what they are talking about lol
People, please stop using twitter. Stop giving your attention and money to terrible people. Some people, like that white lady, are weak-minded and they will never learn.
This — why are people even still there? Get off it, full stop.
We’re all here commenting on it. It’s part of the outrage feedback loop.
If your question wasn’t rhetorical, addiction is one reason I can think of. Folks are tied up in a certain kind of Feed depending on the places they go online, and twitter/facebook are aggressively designed to make you stay, right? It might be as emotionally daunting as a smoker knowing they should quit. idk - I was lucky to not invest any time with those platforms, but I have kicked one addiction and failed to quit others, so I have some sympathy if that’s what’s holding people back.
Another reason is rubbernecking at the car crash. People are still on twitter because it’s where all the drama people/news are talking about IS.
Other than that? Nazis are there to be accellerationists, and internet debate club folks are there to perform civilized discourse (“so someone reading in the future can see that the nazi was wrong”).
If your question was rhetorical, my bad.
When I got banned from Instagram I went through actual withdrawal. I was very upset, I felt cut off from the world and digitally exiled. I still do. If I was desperate enough I could of made another account but after a decade+ with the same account - which got banned for standing up to Nazis and fascists - I gave up. Fuck Zuck. The same happened to me on Reddit too.
The technofascists hate leftists, they shadow ban them, they block their accounts, they ban at the isp level. They are propagandizing millions of people into right wing bullshit and worse.
I don’t have tik tok because I don’t trust China nor an algorithm as addictive as it but there’s a reason it’s being banned in the US: it doesn’t ban leftist content and in fact likely promotes it. Our oligarchs can’t allow that to happen. Class consciousness must be prevented at all costs or they lose their power.
I agree completely. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the racist rapist traitor felon just won the popular freaking vote in the country the site is based in.
So even though I deleted my account a long time ago and so did half the people here, the idea of not using xitter because it’s run by a nazi hasn’t even entered into most people’s minds to be considered in the first place.
Different people have different levels of tolerance to fecal matter. Some absolutely love the shit.
Yet you continue to use it…
As soon as Musk bought it I reactivated my long-dormant account so that I could delete it properly, I can’t understand why so many people are using X.
You’re all patrons of the nazi bar, only in this case the nazis bought the bar. Twitter is dead. Migrate to somewhere else like you probably have multiple times before if you’ve been on the Internet for any amount of time.
I still have an account, but I’ve only ever posted 6 times and haven’t deleted it because I don’t wanna jump through the hoops of “sign in to see this content”, also because once and a while I’ll see a linked tweet about a game or artist or something and give it a heart
My advice would be to just block it in an adblocker browser plugin. Even if it only takes two extra clicks it does wonders to get you into the “do I really need to see this” mindset.
This is what I don’t get, people not migrating from a shit platform. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.
They all just reach this critical mass where people decide the benefit of everyone else using it outweighs all the negatives of the platform being abusive to its own users
FOMO is incredibly powerful unfortunately.
The important stuff will be reposted on another platform. It’s the whole point of !whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works
The important stuff to you might not be the important stuff to someone else. And not everything gets reposted.
I’m not saying that’s a good reason to stay on Twitter, but I am saying it’s a big reason people stay.
I avoid all FB products but it’s a pain in the ass when every business assumes that everyone has FB or Instagram. Local bakery closing due to poor weather? Instagram. Schedule for the small festival I’m attending later in the day? Instagram. Up to date hours for a local small restaurant? FB. Any contests or giveaways from any of the small businesses I patronize? Instagram. And friends with kids complain that their kid’s schools all use FB for critical info.
And it’s damn near impossible to really engage with the pottery community without Instagram. It’s really the defacto communication medium for publicizing any artists or craftspeople who are below the high end gallery representation level or the decent sized company level.